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Llama 2 13b Chat vs Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e
This page is context-first: how much text each model can take in one request. Full specs adds capabilities and limits; the pricing matrix below is only about $/million tokens from hosts that list both models.
Model
Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e
Context window
10M
10,000,000 tokens · ~7.5M words
Context window · side by side
Bar length is relative to the larger of the two windows (100% = max of this pair). This is not pricing.
Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e has about 2441.4× the context window of the other in this pair.
Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e has 244040% more context capacity (10000K vs 4K tokens). Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e is 80% cheaper on input.
Quick verdicts
Short takeaways — validate with your own workloads.
Long document processing
Use Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e. Its 10000K context fits entire documents without chunking (vs 4K).
RAG / high-volume retrieval
Use Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e. Input tokens are 80% cheaper — critical when sending large retrieved contexts.
Long output (reports, code files)
Use Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e. Its 16K max output lets you generate complete artifacts in one request.
Full specs
Context, output, capabilities, and dates. Green highlights the favorable value where we compute a winner.
| Spec | Llama 2 13b Chat | Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e |
|---|---|---|
| Context window | 4,096 tokens (4K) | 10,000,000 tokens (10000K) |
| Max output tokens | 4,096 tokens (4K) | 16,384 tokens (16K) |
| Speed tier | Fast | Fast |
| Vision | No | Yes |
| Function calling | No | Yes |
| Extended thinking | No | No |
| Prompt caching | No | No |
| Batch API | No | No |
| Release date | N/A | N/A |
Pricing matrix
Dollar rates only: hosts that list both models, per 1M tokens. For how much text fits, use the context section above — not this table.
| Provider | Llama 2 13b Chat in | Llama 2 13b Chat out | Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e in | Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e out |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Anyscale | $0.250/M | $0.250/M | — | — |
| Azure | — | — | $0.200/M | $0.780/M |
| Deepinfra | — | — | $0.080/M | $0.300/M |
| Groq | — | — | $0.110/M | $0.340/M |
| Lambda | — | — | $0.050/M | $0.100/M |
| Novita | — | — | $0.180/M | $0.590/M |
| Nscale | — | — | $0.090/M | $0.290/M |
| Sambanova | — | — | $0.400/M | $0.700/M |
| Together Ai | — | — | $0.180/M | $0.590/M |
Frequently asked questions
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