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Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo vs Phi 3 Vision 128k

This page is context-first: how much text each model can take in one request. Full specs adds capabilities and limits; the pricing matrix below is only about $/million tokens from hosts that list both models.

Mistral

Model

Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo

Context window

33K

32,768 tokens · ~25K words

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Microsoft

Model

Phi 3 Vision 128k

Context window

32K

32,064 tokens · ~24K words

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Context window · side by side

Bar length is relative to the larger of the two windows (100% = max of this pair). This is not pricing.

Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo33K
Phi 3 Vision 128k32K

Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo has about 1× the context window of the other in this pair.

Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo has 2% more context capacity (32K vs 32K tokens). Phi 3 Vision 128k is 60% cheaper on input.

Quick verdicts

Short takeaways — validate with your own workloads.

  • Long document processing

    Use Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo. Its 32K context fits entire documents without chunking (vs 32K).

  • RAG / high-volume retrieval

    Use Phi 3 Vision 128k. Input tokens are 60% cheaper — critical when sending large retrieved contexts.

  • Long output (reports, code files)

    Use Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo. Its 32K max output lets you generate complete artifacts in one request.

Full specs

Context, output, capabilities, and dates. Green highlights the favorable value where we compute a winner.

SpecNous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b DpoPhi 3 Vision 128k
Context window32,768 tokens (32K)32,064 tokens (32K)
Max output tokens32,768 tokens (32K)32,064 tokens (32K)
Speed tierFastBalanced
VisionNoNo
Function callingNoNo
Extended thinkingNoNo
Prompt cachingNoNo
Batch APINoNo
Release dateN/AN/A

Pricing matrix

Dollar rates only: hosts that list both models, per 1M tokens. For how much text fits, use the context section above — not this table.

ProviderNous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo inNous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo outPhi 3 Vision 128k inPhi 3 Vision 128k out
Fireworks$0.500/M$0.500/M$0.200/M$0.200/M

Frequently asked questions

Nous Hermes 2 Mixtral 8x7b Dpo has a larger context window: 32K tokens vs 32K. For long documents, large codebases, or extended agent sessions, the larger context window reduces the need to chunk inputs or summarize history.

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